Kennedy seen as model for re-entry women

You really asked "Where is her Husband in all of this?" If he is worth his salt he is standing beside her as her greatest advocate. As any good Husband should do.

I'm not advocating Mrs. Kennedy on a personal level but, this particular argument is ridiculous on both sides.

Having nannies care for your children while you meet your social obligations hardly equates to the experience of most stay at home moms.

The benefit of those nannies and house staff do however, afford her the opportunity to have had a rich experience in fund raising, on a grand scale, and non-paid public pursuits that are necessary in our communities. Using her experience in raising funds for schools systems as an example, most would be marginal at best without the solicitation of donations and grants. Most would not function with any transparency if parents were not active in the PTA or volunteering in classrooms or assisting teachers in menial aspects of their jobs.

Women who choose to stay home and raise their children do not just curly up and become couch potatoes or shopaholics, they tend to use the skills from their working days to promote other endeavors for no pay. If others are jealous that there are qualified and ambitious women in this world that do eventually re-enter the workforce then that is their problem.

Mr. Bus could you expand on your objections is it because she is 50 or because you see no value in a person who places their family before career?

There is a tremendous difference between an intelligent, experienced, compassionate woman like Ms. Kennedy vs. a woman who is manipulative, ignorant, and a very poor mother/role model - Ms. Palin. There can be no comparison...even on the mother/family level.

Face it. Ms. Palin never read a book and certainly could never write a book...but there will be books written about her as one of the most inept, ignorant public figures - remember Dan Quail?

No, I do not remember Dan Quail.  I do remember Dan Quayle.

Fisherman-

This is an article about Caroline Kennedy and The NY State Senate Seat.  Please stay on topic.

Fisherman... can you stay on topic? Article is about a socialite mom choosing to re-join the working world. It is not about a working mom politician.

Where you might be just that sexist to link the two it would only be due to limited personal knowledge about the topic. In which case, you could consider developing your own opinion not spouting old DNC rhetoric. I suppose if you can identify with Governor Palin so well you would consider picking up a book yourself and possibly challenging your own limits to intellect.

Fish,

And learn how to spell peoples names. Moron

Yeah I remember Dan Quayle. He couldn't spell either and the media beat him up over a potato. Isn't that petty. This is the best the media could do? Look how low they've stooped now.

 Are there any better qualified ?........................ She has contacts ? .................... She'd be great networking ?........................

 This really is a question and subjuct that is for New Yorkers only. Yet since this is national news and the things she would do as a Senator from New York will have an effect on the rest of the country as a whole it is up for national debate.

 Yes she is educated, qualified in many Americans view would probably mean years in a lower office at a state level, she doesn't have this, therefore ie; not qualified. If a person comes from a family that has 3 or for brain surgeons, that person does'nt become a brain surgeon by osmosis.

 What kind of contacts,.............,,,,,, telephone numbers on speed dial for Sack's Fith Avenue, Tiffiny's and Uncle Teddy !!!!!!!!!!!!

 She'd be great networking, ........................ at a Tea Party !!!!!!!!!

Brian - I believe you're jealous.

Face it! She is not qualified. It is that simple.

It seems everyone knows she is not qualified. The question is, does Governor Paterson? I wrote to tell HIM just in case he doesn't know. I also told him I do vote in New York.

jm1 - Apparently you know the backgrounds of the current Senators. Many don't have previous political experience. One is a Medical Doctor. Others were 'community organizers'. There are teachers, economists, and a number of lawyers in that part of Congress.

You might even want to be a Senator, but I'm afraid you'd lose.

Fisherman144

The difference with those current Senators who are MDs, teachers, etc, is  that they were elected.  Ms Kennedy will not be an elected official and as such the people are entitled to the best and most experienced representative - not a novice.

FISHERMAN- LMAO I like that about the community organizers. ONLY ONE fits that bill.

Anywho, TOOOOOO many out there think Ms. Kennedy is qualified for Senator, but did not find S.PALIN qualified for VP. Now that's a hoot. You also said she is manipulative and a poor mother/role model. OH, so you know her personally sir??? You need to wash out that mouth of yours with some soap and think before you malign someone. I truly believe that interview with Katie Couric pissed off Ms. Sara. Katie in my opinion was acting rather smug. Couldn't you see Sarah steaming underneath all that cool. She talked to her like she was stupid and frankly sir, you don't negotiate a multi-billion dollar deal if your stupid. That crack about her being a role model. FROM EXPERIENCE SIR, you can watch and guide your children the best you can in life. SOMETIMES stuff happens and all the MOTHERING OR FATHERING out there is not going to prevent ACCIDENTS from happening. Right after the press came out about her daughter and her plight, someone by the name of Suzanne Sommers came out with her OWN letter to the PRESS regarding her issue when she was a teenager. TO get to the point, she basically said DO NOT JUDGE ones actions. THINGS HAPPEN. And where do you get the manipulation factor from??????????Please state an example.

To those who says Caroline Kennedy have no experience.....have you considered the many years of experience George Bush has in politics? Look where we are now?

What Caroline Kennedy is bringing for the State of New York is integrity. See what happens when someone do not have integrity....look at Chicago's Governor.

I say Caroline Kennedy would be the best, she is not a politician. She is a person who have been doing good for the State of New York without the need to claim credit for herself.

Doesn't anyone realize that the Senate and House majority for the last two years was democratic and that's where the laws are passed. That's why we are where we are and it will get drastically worse. It already has because Obama isn't even in office yet and people who got him elected are already beating him up. Let's see how all three branches work together now that they're all Democrat.

 Second: I don't believe there are many Kennedys with integrity or ethics. Doesn't anyone know how Joe came into his money, or JFK and his affairs of state or Uncle Teddy and Chappaquiddick?

Third: I've lived in New York State for nearly fifty years and Caroline Kennedy's extent to public service has been very limited at best. Sorry but she is out of touch with the working class, and after all isn't that who these clowns are supposed to be representing? Yes, I do know not many hold that philosophy anymore.

Her Interview was bad.  You know....you know.....you know.....you know....

"You have these incredibly talented stay-at-home moms, and I think we'd be idiots as a country not to welcome them back to the work force," she said.

If Caroline Kennedy is a role model for the stay-at-home moms who are returning to the work force, kudos to her.  She still does not qualify to be a Senator though.

Brian-- It's funny how everyone in this country kept saying "If JOHN McCAIN dies, Sarah Palin will not be qualified to take over the PRESIDENCY". Frankly, with all four of them running, she was the ONLY one holding an EXECUTIVE OFFICE. The MSM assassinated her in their papers and the same with most of our news programs. They never came up for air. AND who cares about SNL anyway. They poked fun at the GOV.of NY and the next day he was all over the airwaves complaining. It's never fair is it? Watch J. McCain live for like the next 20 yrs. Strong man, good genes!!

You only have to listen to her to figure out she isn't intelligent.

Sonny Bono's wife was also not qualified.  Happy now.  Get them both the heck out of there.

The Princess aint to birght.  She can't seem to put a sentence together.  She supposedly stayed home to raise kids.  The nanay did it all.  She could have at least taken care of herself.  She looks 80 instead of 50. 

Oh, if you don't agree with Brian he must "be quiet"?  Spoken like a true dumocrat.

well, he's not in office yet. we'll see what happens and how long the adoration continues once he's been seated for oh let's say 6 months, a year? 

As for Caroline, while I followed the same path of staying at home, raising children, volunteer work, then a career, that path didn't include going to the head of the firm and demanding the corner office because family connections suggested maybe you know I might be you know somewhat you know qualified you know.

Instead I worked for it, and earned it.

 Fisherman,............................................... Barrack Obama was never a working class person, he lived in Hawaii as a young man; ie .......... his grandparents wealth !!!! He went to Ivy League schools, .................. he's just an charismatic, eloquent speaker.

 This is a man that may or may not be the greatest President this country has ever had, yet that is left to be seen.

 Since you would like for me to give up my 1st Amendment Rights, I have to ask are you a communist, or just rude?

 May I ask what it is that you are doing to help our country survive and thrive, besides suggesting other's to be quiet ?  This is a serious question. You have no idea what I've done for this country, and what I've lost for this country !

  I'm have to sign off, appointment at the VA.

Fisherman-

Every response you have made to commenters on this article have been either insulting or off-topic.  If you don't have anything to contribute to the discussion, you need to be quiet and read and learn.

Oh wait, I just looked over your column-you're just an MSNBC seeder and nothing else.  Once you've written and posted some articles, then maybe you could be taken seriously.

Mr. Obama is not choosing people from every level of society.  He is choosing people from every level of the Clinton administration. 

Regarding the statement in the article about "strip away the name and the money, and she is me.." Please note that without the name and the money, she would not, like, you know, even be, like, a contender for the senate seat.

Fisherman...Do you really suppose that being raised by a Banker, living an international life, exploring many drugs in the college years and having the support of the DNC in Chicago is the same as being a regular guy? Oh come on. No one could possibly be that gullible. Have you been following his cabinet choices, they all have Clinton written all over them. Could our real President Elect stand up please! Inquiring minds want to know.

Brian- O.K. put down the crack pipe. HIS grandparents were not wealthy. If you remember correctly, HE NEVER RELEASED THOSE COLLEGE RECORDS. My thought is that a man by the name of KHALIDI in some fashion got his college paid for by some wealthy ARABS. Don't believe BO paid for his education. But that's something I don't think we will ever find out.

 Rose, ................... I know you didn't just acuse me of using Crack............ Who TF do you think you are ? Lol !!!!

 I admit I don't know his family's financial history, and it was an off the wall comment based on my beliefs as to what real estate costs in Hawaii, and the annual costs of living in Hawaii. I have money, yet not in the realm where I could live in Hawaii, and the costs are relative to the time period he was living there with his grandparents.

 It was meant to make a point that he isn't a "working class person and never was", I guess everyone has they'er own definition of what working class is.

 I would bet there are'nt to many people that would include any type of attorney in they'er definition of what working class is.

 I have not heard about his college records, I read that he went to an Ivy league School thats it.

 I'm not saying he was from a rich family, just wealthy enough to make his life into what it is today without doing any real, ....................... "working class" type of work.

Poor case again. Please go back and read my comments on the house and senate previously written and as far as telling anyone to keep quiet,that'll happen soon enough when these left wing crazies take away all your rights. Be vigilant!

she wants to be a senator and affect change in national policy. I would think everyone would care who she is, and what her qualifications are, or not.

The fact is that anyone should come back into the workforce whenever they want.  Just don't expect to be placed at a level where all the people you graduated with are after they fought and clawed their way to get there for 30 years.  Come back to work but earn your stripes.  If you made the choice to stay home, that doesn't mean you learned a thing about your work.

Wisconsin Bob...are you really that shallow?

"If you made the choice to stay home, that doesn't mean you learned a thing about your work?"

What is your impression of a "Stay at home mom?" I can vouch for myself and my peers that business skills do not end when you choose to raise your own children. There are many facets of life that are honed between: Children, volunteer work, personal finance, interpersonal skills, negotiation, maintaining all the aspects of a home, logistics, entertainment, budgeting, entertaining, time management etc.

My husband and I often discuss the relief of life when I can go back to work at a company. The problem is there is no one who can walk into my home and do what I do with the same impact.

Go-Go Boots were a product of the mid to late 60's, my friend.

Spike,

She's had many jobs.Perhaps she just hasn't been on any formal payroll. Besides staying home to take care of kids IS a job.

She has never held  job--9 to 5, fixed vacation, benefits, accountability, etc.  In common usage, a job, means outside the home employment.  Do not nitpick the definition of job.  The meaning of a, "job", is clear.

Anyhow--I sincerely doubt that she "took care" of her kids, without the help of other folks who had "jobs".  Namely,  taking care of her kids.  

Janell

The article is obviously not considering staying home, raising kids as a profession otherwise the would not be calling it RE-entry.  The article is reffering to the outside of the home working world. 

Guess he wasn't a really good stand by your woman man.

Oh no, divorced.  Just two weeks ago there was a big upraor because of a rumor that Palin was going to get divorced.  Why is that not okay (whihc it is neither okay nor true) and NO ONE is talking about this divorce?  Because it's okay to stand for no morals and not have them but it's not okay to stand for morals and make a mistake.  That's what the dems are all about - stand for nothing so they cannot be held to any standard.

Lance--I thought that I heard a while ago that they had separated. Just recently I googled her name and her biography came up. It did not mention anywhere that I recall that she is in fact divorced. ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?? I had a bet here in my office concerning that specific topic and I would like to get my money back. Please do reply back.

Palin can at least put a sentence together without 50% of the words being either "like or ummm"!

 They sound alike to me except for kennedy has trouble speaking in public You know.

sara palin is not clueless. she is a very intelligent woman and a lot of women see her as someone who worked hard to get where she is. she has a family and has problems like many women do.  one of her children is retarded and will need care all his life. her kids are your average kids and one of her sons is fighting for his country. done mention palin in the same breath as caroline.  its an insult to palin.

by the way, palin's husband was always with her. whats ed schlossberg? an inconvenient truth?

The print media can criticize her public speaking skills when they decide to stop using conjunctions at the beginning of a sentence.

I, too, was wondering what happened to the "Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg" moniker...

Oh william, I would concur.  And Caroline is no Palin either.  And that says a lot more that your little sentence there.  Caroline has no clue what it is to manage a budget (all her life others have done it for her) to be in hard economic times (like the rest of us) or to be put down for simply not being of a certain social class (like the rest of us).

If she will represent you and your needs, you must be a rich, dem with nothing to do.  Maybe you could get off teh internet and help some people out.  At least I will say the Princess looks like she may have done that.

I Know, you know!

Did you say the same about Palin or are you the lonely dem on this forum?

Though I agree with your premise-that a woman has every right to compete for any job a man has, I disagree with your 'only a handful' comment.  More than a handful of backwards countries don't let women hold high office-in fact, they don't let women drive, go to school, talk with any male not of their own family and the list goes on and on.

Much more than a handful, unfortunately.

The sins of the grandfather are not the sins of the granddaughter.

Plus, I think it's a good thing that she's a nubie. We need fresh people who aren't part of the 'good ol boy' club of politics with a capital P.  Any one should be able to run for a government position. I do think we should get to know what her positions are though and I think she should be elected and not given a position because she's a Kennedy.

"You have these incredibly talented stay-at-home moms, and I think we'd be idiots as a country not to welcome them back to the work place." 

If I understand your post correctly, Sarah Palin technically doesn't qualify (I'm referring to the part after "incredibly talented"...I'll let others decide that!)

She already is a working Mom, so quitcher@!$%#in.

LMAOROF...................... thank you.

I think word might have gotten around the family not to ride with Uncle Teddy.

lol