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Supreme Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama presidency

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It may come as something of a shock to those millions planning trips to Washington for the Jan. 20 inauguration of President-elect Barack Obama that he isn't really legally capable of taking the oath.

It's the birth certificate thing.

That's because he was born in Kenya to an alien father and isn't a natural-born American as the Constitution requires and the copy of his Hawaii birth certificate looks fake to many and the state won't release the original, which makes everything that much more suspicious.

This controversy has been brewing for many months online with few taking it seriously. The Ticket wrote about it last June and again in August.

We published a birth certificate provided by the Obama presidential campaign, which has caused hundreds of commenters to argue back and forth over its authenticity, especially in recent weeks.

And we'll publish it again right here.

Crackpot controversy, you say. He's been accepted as a U.S. citizen.

But here's the thing: The United States Supreme Court officially takes up the issue of whether to ponder whether Obama can become president in formal discussions today in Washington.

What? Yup! A similar case was thrown out earlier this fall, but Justice Clarence Thomas distributed the legal papers in Donofrio vs Wells to his court colleagues for legal conference today.

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greenpagan

Didn't Obama himself admit to being from the planet Krypton...?

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Reply#1 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 10:39 AM EST
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SnotRag Dave

Actually, Vulcan.  Had the pointy ears filed down while attending Harvard.

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#1.1 - Fri Dec 5, 2008 11:34 AM EST
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Brian-657672

Obama is a fraud.

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    #1.2 - Fri Jan 9, 2009 9:33 PM EST
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    {"commentId":4318486,"authorDomain":"clariflutist73"}
    DolceSpiritus

    This just won't end will it?  What good is this going to do?  I hope this gets thrown out to and finally laid to rest.  Our country is in enough trouble as it is.  What would happen if the inauguration was blocked?  Who would be our President?  Has this ever happened before?  I'm pretty up on my history and politics, but I do not know about this.  If he were to be blocked would congress hold an emergency session to ratify VP elect Biden as president?

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    Reply#2 - Sat Dec 6, 2008 2:16 AM EST
    {"commentId":4320044,"authorDomain":"greenpagan"}
    greenpagan

    Dolce


    Who would be our President?

    As you indicate above, Biden would in all likelihood become President.

    But the accusation that Obama isn't American is patently false. (Remember when he was a Muslim...? And paling around with terrorists...? Those rightwing bloggers have no shame...and obviously too much time on their hands. They're lucky I'm not dictator. I'd find them all honest work in a uranium mine...)

    And Clarence Thomas is a mediocrity who never had any business on the Court.

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    #2.1 - Sat Dec 6, 2008 8:33 AM EST
    {"commentId":4322876,"authorDomain":"clariflutist73"}
    DolceSpiritus

    I agree, there really has been no shame involved.  Either way, Palin sure as heck isn't in position to take over...

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      #2.2 - Sat Dec 6, 2008 1:14 PM EST
      {"commentId":4743405,"authorDomain":"Brian-657672"}
      Brian-657672

      There is a constitutional crisis.  The USSC would install the other candidate if it stops the inauguration, but after the inauguration Biden would become president, I think.

      Obama could end this mess if he would provide the vaulted copy of his birth certificate.  There are plenty of people that would pay his air fair to Kenya to get his birth certificate.

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        #2.3 - Fri Jan 9, 2009 9:37 PM EST
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        {"commentId":4321681,"authorDomain":"jae-walker"}
        Jae-walker

        It may seem silly and another opportunity to express hatred for those "rightwingers" But If people want assurance and you are positive he is American why let it bother you? Everything will go its course No matter how people feel right or left. Put away the pitchforks until someone comes to your house questioning citizenship, when its personal. I have seen a lot of people on Newsvine forgetting to respect each other AS INDIVIDUALS AND NOT PARTIES. The focus should be for the greater good of all people, its what everyone is screaming for and few individuals want to do it themselves. I think all of this is sad, sad,business. Not because of Obama, but because of the ignorance to others that this election has bred more so than ever before.

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          Reply#3 - Sat Dec 6, 2008 11:22 AM EST
          {"commentId":4743465,"authorDomain":"Brian-657672"}
          Brian-657672

          The founding fathers were smarter than we are, and they specifically put in the constitution the requirements to be eligible to become president.  We should all want the laws of America followed.

          Obama could end this mess, but has chosen not to do so.  History will say that with all the commotion around this the USSC did nothing.  Anarchy.  Elections go to the courts all the time now, and I hope this does also, and soon.  Lets get this mess over with, Period.

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            #3.1 - Fri Jan 9, 2009 9:42 PM EST
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            {"commentId":4322892,"authorDomain":"clariflutist73"}
            DolceSpiritus

            Jae...

            But pitchforks are so fun!   ;)

            You make extremely valid points in your comment.  Respect is paramount, and unfortunately, that trait is something that has fallen by the wayside for so many in this country.

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            Reply#4 - Sat Dec 6, 2008 1:16 PM EST
            {"commentId":4323046,"authorDomain":"jae-walker"}
            Jae-walker

            Swords would be cool

            . If these debase were a responsible, respectful and classy parrallel to fencing. I would be a little more prone to jump in and give it a shot. These pitchforks are just so volatile and scary:(

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              #4.1 - Sat Dec 6, 2008 1:28 PM EST
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              {"commentId":4324484,"authorDomain":"upswing"}
              upswing

              Justice Clarence Thomas distributed the legal papers in Donofrio vs Wells to his court colleagues for legal conference today.

              And that's were it will end.

              Tjhre is no way SCOTUS wants to pick up this hot potato...

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              Reply#5 - Sat Dec 6, 2008 3:40 PM EST
              {"commentId":4743488,"authorDomain":"Brian-657672"}
              Brian-657672

              The balance of power demands that the USSC takes this one on.  It will not end otherwise, and all of America will suffer from Obama's egomaniac tendencies.

              {"commentId":4743488,"threadId":"435398","contentId":"2180702","authorDomain":"Brian-657672"}
                #5.1 - Fri Jan 9, 2009 9:45 PM EST
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                {"commentId":4328714,"authorDomain":"aringland"}
                LadySaidy

                The Donofrio case, which is the one that was in conference on Friday, was not on the list of cases granted Cert that was released on Friday. The rest of the conference business will be released on Monday. If you look at other order releases on the USSC site, the Monday Orders are usually the cases that have been rejected, sometimes with comment, sometimes without.

                So, we will know for sure on Monday.

                As for Berg's case, it is supposed to be scheduled for conference on Friday the 12th.

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                Reply#6 - Sun Dec 7, 2008 12:10 AM EST
                {"commentId":4743718,"authorDomain":"aringland"}
                LadySaidy

                A bit late Brian. Donofrio was tossed awhile ago. As was Wrotnowski. And Berg. :)

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                Reply#7 - Fri Jan 9, 2009 10:08 PM EST
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